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	<title>Comments on: Seed and Angel Capital Strategies for Atlanta</title>
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		<title>By: Brac Wardlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brac Wardlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,
This is all helpful information and I wish I would of learned about Startup Lounge long ago.  We have been approached by every capital broker or just a guy that wants $25 - $100k to rewrite our business plan (fell for that one 12 years ago and won&#039;t happen again).  Just a note about the &quot;how to&quot;, after a pretty extensive run of working to raise capital for a non-tech venture (homebuilding) with a heavy new tech component the only two things I really learned was (1) it costs to much money to try and meet investors and pitch them (2) I didn&#039;t know enough people.  The guys who have been there done that have access to walk a deal in the door, most entrepreneurs are still trying to email their executive summary to businessplan@sherpalo.com (or whatever investor site they come across).  Word of advice to entrepreneurs who may read this, &quot;don&#039;t wait by the phone for a speedy reply.&quot;  How do you feel about sites like GoBIG Network?  We have been working on something that emulates how you guys help.  This is how I found out about you.  One of the people who we are working with told me about Startup Lounge.  We have and continue to assemble a group of investors that will accept deal flow (most of these are the people that told US no, but we maintained a relationship with) and have the entrepreneurs present their first pitch using a virtual forum.  We got tired of paying to travel the country, paying to apply, paying to present, paying to feed and paying to sit in the room so we came up with an alternative.  The only problem as you outline is we are making people pay, because that&#039;s the way we had to do it.  Because of some (not all) negative feedback about the presentation fee and due in large part to your article we have done away with a presentation fee but have left a application fee of $150 in place.  I would be interested on your thoughts regarding the application fee.  In closing, I though it odd that the VC you mentioned had never heard of the idea of &quot;Pay to Pitch&quot; because almost (not all) but almost every group we encountered we had to pay to play.  This includes some of the largets VC&#039;s and deal makers in the country.  Thanks for your helpful articles and you have a new reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,<br />
This is all helpful information and I wish I would of learned about Startup Lounge long ago.  We have been approached by every capital broker or just a guy that wants $25 &#8211; $100k to rewrite our business plan (fell for that one 12 years ago and won&#8217;t happen again).  Just a note about the &#8220;how to&#8221;, after a pretty extensive run of working to raise capital for a non-tech venture (homebuilding) with a heavy new tech component the only two things I really learned was (1) it costs to much money to try and meet investors and pitch them (2) I didn&#8217;t know enough people.  The guys who have been there done that have access to walk a deal in the door, most entrepreneurs are still trying to email their executive summary to <a href="mailto:businessplan@sherpalo.com">businessplan@sherpalo.com</a> (or whatever investor site they come across).  Word of advice to entrepreneurs who may read this, &#8220;don&#8217;t wait by the phone for a speedy reply.&#8221;  How do you feel about sites like GoBIG Network?  We have been working on something that emulates how you guys help.  This is how I found out about you.  One of the people who we are working with told me about Startup Lounge.  We have and continue to assemble a group of investors that will accept deal flow (most of these are the people that told US no, but we maintained a relationship with) and have the entrepreneurs present their first pitch using a virtual forum.  We got tired of paying to travel the country, paying to apply, paying to present, paying to feed and paying to sit in the room so we came up with an alternative.  The only problem as you outline is we are making people pay, because that&#8217;s the way we had to do it.  Because of some (not all) negative feedback about the presentation fee and due in large part to your article we have done away with a presentation fee but have left a application fee of $150 in place.  I would be interested on your thoughts regarding the application fee.  In closing, I though it odd that the VC you mentioned had never heard of the idea of &#8220;Pay to Pitch&#8221; because almost (not all) but almost every group we encountered we had to pay to play.  This includes some of the largets VC&#8217;s and deal makers in the country.  Thanks for your helpful articles and you have a new reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Griffin: Pardon the Disruption</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip Griffin: Pardon the Disruption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Looking for Seed Funding or Angel Investors Outside of Silicon Valley?&lt;/strong&gt;

Scott Burkett has a great write-up with ideas for entrepreneurs seeking early stage funding. He writes with a geographic focus on Atlanta, but much of what he writes applies regardless of where one is located. Raising money is rarely easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Looking for Seed Funding or Angel Investors Outside of Silicon Valley?</strong></p>
<p>Scott Burkett has a great write-up with ideas for entrepreneurs seeking early stage funding. He writes with a geographic focus on Atlanta, but much of what he writes applies regardless of where one is located. Raising money is rarely easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Burkett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Burkett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 15:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Paul.  We have to plant a lot of seeds if we want to get some new trees in the forest.  Doing a few deals a year is status quo, and not enough to drive change in the larger market.

I think once some of these newer funds begin bubbling up (and they will be soon, I think), we&#039;ll start to see some more activity.

I know of at least two regional VCs that are looking at putting a presence in Atlanta as well - evidence, to me at least, that there is innovation happening here.

Cheers.
Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Paul.  We have to plant a lot of seeds if we want to get some new trees in the forest.  Doing a few deals a year is status quo, and not enough to drive change in the larger market.</p>
<p>I think once some of these newer funds begin bubbling up (and they will be soon, I think), we&#8217;ll start to see some more activity.</p>
<p>I know of at least two regional VCs that are looking at putting a presence in Atlanta as well &#8211; evidence, to me at least, that there is innovation happening here.</p>
<p>Cheers.<br />
Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Freet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Freet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 13:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Scott.

One of the problems with creating a robust technology community is the need for volume. Silicon Valley doesn&#039;t work because all the smart people are there. It works because of the vast number of startups that take a shot (most of which fail). No one can predict the winners and losers at the outset - it is folly to try. But if 100 companies led by bright aggressive entrepreneurs with sufficient funding can make it out of the starting gate, a few are likely to be huge successes. Which ones? You cannot possibly know, that&#039;s why you have to start 100. If Imlay and ATA fund 5 companies total and ATDC lets in maybe 10 a year, the chance of any one of them being the next eBay or Paypal is small indeed. It is a numbers game. Would you ever buy a mutual fund that only invested in 5 companies? I&#039;d like to know how many companies Knox Massey or Sig Moseley see in a year? 100? 200? And they invest in 2? I don&#039;t fault them. But if those are the two primary sources of seed funding, that it is no where near enough if the Atlanta tech community is to every escape its backwater status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Scott.</p>
<p>One of the problems with creating a robust technology community is the need for volume. Silicon Valley doesn&#8217;t work because all the smart people are there. It works because of the vast number of startups that take a shot (most of which fail). No one can predict the winners and losers at the outset &#8211; it is folly to try. But if 100 companies led by bright aggressive entrepreneurs with sufficient funding can make it out of the starting gate, a few are likely to be huge successes. Which ones? You cannot possibly know, that&#8217;s why you have to start 100. If Imlay and ATA fund 5 companies total and ATDC lets in maybe 10 a year, the chance of any one of them being the next eBay or Paypal is small indeed. It is a numbers game. Would you ever buy a mutual fund that only invested in 5 companies? I&#8217;d like to know how many companies Knox Massey or Sig Moseley see in a year? 100? 200? And they invest in 2? I don&#8217;t fault them. But if those are the two primary sources of seed funding, that it is no where near enough if the Atlanta tech community is to every escape its backwater status.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Burkett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Burkett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 15:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - great insights! I especially agree with your point about not coming across as a panhandler.  The astute entrepreneur is going to be rewarded by their patience and ability to cultivate a relationship.

Knox - thanks for stopping by and posting the additional info and insights on the ATA. Your #3 I think is an important data point (and one that I didn&#039;t know.)

I&#039;m all about helping you guys with #4. Let&#039;s make sure we add this to our agenda when we meet next.

Cheers.
Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; great insights! I especially agree with your point about not coming across as a panhandler.  The astute entrepreneur is going to be rewarded by their patience and ability to cultivate a relationship.</p>
<p>Knox &#8211; thanks for stopping by and posting the additional info and insights on the ATA. Your #3 I think is an important data point (and one that I didn&#8217;t know.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all about helping you guys with #4. Let&#8217;s make sure we add this to our agenda when we meet next.</p>
<p>Cheers.<br />
Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 13:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A subtle point of your blog that is worth amplifying is the importance developing good networking skills. Getting access to and then the trust of high net worth individuals is difficult and time-consuming.  (That doesn&#039;t mean don&#039;t do it - but rather it requires brains, effort and sincerity).  A start would be the startuplounge.com podcast #1.  Some other thoughts.

High net worth individuals are best accessed either through their trusted advisors, close professional contacts, or through their non professional activities.

Trusted advisors included wealth managers, accountants and attorneys.

Professional contacts would be businesses in which the particular high net worth individual has invested, or business partners.

Non professional activities might include recreational activities (golf is the most obvious example) or charity-related events.

When you do meet such individuals, don&#039;t hit them up for money right away.  You then become indistinguishable from a panhandler.  Get to know them.  See how you might help them.  Seek resources that don&#039;t require a check (advice, contacts, information).  At some point the conversation will turn to how they might help you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A subtle point of your blog that is worth amplifying is the importance developing good networking skills. Getting access to and then the trust of high net worth individuals is difficult and time-consuming.  (That doesn&#8217;t mean don&#8217;t do it &#8211; but rather it requires brains, effort and sincerity).  A start would be the startuplounge.com podcast #1.  Some other thoughts.</p>
<p>High net worth individuals are best accessed either through their trusted advisors, close professional contacts, or through their non professional activities.</p>
<p>Trusted advisors included wealth managers, accountants and attorneys.</p>
<p>Professional contacts would be businesses in which the particular high net worth individual has invested, or business partners.</p>
<p>Non professional activities might include recreational activities (golf is the most obvious example) or charity-related events.</p>
<p>When you do meet such individuals, don&#8217;t hit them up for money right away.  You then become indistinguishable from a panhandler.  Get to know them.  See how you might help them.  Seek resources that don&#8217;t require a check (advice, contacts, information).  At some point the conversation will turn to how they might help you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Knox Massey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knox Massey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 11:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott--
Nice post, but let me elaborate on some of your comments.
 
1.) We generally only have time at the monthly meeting to review two investment opportunities. However, we talk to companies on a continual basis-and have funded companies without a formal meeting.

2.) It is always helpful to remember that ATA is comprised of Atlanta-based individuals who are investing their own private capital—not OPM (other people’s money) in, specifically, Atlanta based technology companies.

3.) Generally, we fund companies &quot;before&quot; they are accepted into ATDC--not after-(Oversight, Vocalocity, Zeewise, etc).
VentureLab is a different story. The technology developed at GATech generally needs to go through a specific &quot;channel&quot;. We track that &quot;channel&quot; and get involved when appropriate.

4.)  One of the missions of ATA is to fund and build Georgia companies to help attract outside institutional capital (since there is, unfortunately, not much in GA). We have helped attract approximately 15X the capital ATA has invested since 1999 ($250M-$300M). ATA companies have helped bring approximately 20 VC&#039;s from 10 states to invest in GA-based companies. ATA is strongly geared towards investing in and promoting Georgia as an innovative market.




Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott&#8211;<br />
Nice post, but let me elaborate on some of your comments.</p>
<p>1.) We generally only have time at the monthly meeting to review two investment opportunities. However, we talk to companies on a continual basis-and have funded companies without a formal meeting.</p>
<p>2.) It is always helpful to remember that ATA is comprised of Atlanta-based individuals who are investing their own private capital—not OPM (other people’s money) in, specifically, Atlanta based technology companies.</p>
<p>3.) Generally, we fund companies &#8220;before&#8221; they are accepted into ATDC&#8211;not after-(Oversight, Vocalocity, Zeewise, etc).<br />
VentureLab is a different story. The technology developed at GATech generally needs to go through a specific &#8220;channel&#8221;. We track that &#8220;channel&#8221; and get involved when appropriate.</p>
<p>4.)  One of the missions of ATA is to fund and build Georgia companies to help attract outside institutional capital (since there is, unfortunately, not much in GA). We have helped attract approximately 15X the capital ATA has invested since 1999 ($250M-$300M). ATA companies have helped bring approximately 20 VC&#8217;s from 10 states to invest in GA-based companies. ATA is strongly geared towards investing in and promoting Georgia as an innovative market.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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